I can just see you coming… What?! How can anyone like Vista, it’s a pile of °!%+! Well, no it isn’t. I will try and make a more compelling argument, but for those who are really rigidly anti-Vista, we won’t be able to convince each other. I will be writing more positive than negative points, but this is only because I see Vista treated unfairly. I know there are a lot of nagging things still in there, I will not be mentioning many of them.
First of all, I am looking at this through the eyes of a totally normal user. I am not a developer, or someone who spends hours in a Windows registry. I also hold nothing against Linux, I’ve tried Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Simply Mepis, all had their merits. I also don’t hate Bill Gates, or Steve Jobs (although I still need to try a Mac), and whenever I find an operating system that suits me better, I’ll change without thinking. I believe I am quite impartial. So let’s take a look, at why I like Vista.
Vista vs XP and in general
For me, Vista is far-far better than XP. It looks better, runs just as smoothly for me, has much more integrated right from the start, even installing it is easier. It has search built in to the start menu (and otherwise awesome search as well), it has Windows Photo Gallery (read my post on it) and a host of other features which actually work. Maybe it’s just me, but for once I see Microsoft not trying to swim against the tide and dictate their own rules just for the sake of dictating, but they are listening. I agree, they still have a lot to learn, but it seems they are trying at least, that’s good in my eyes.
The navigation system has had a major overhaul and is much better. Both the structure, user files, and the way you can get to it, with the arrows in the navigation bar, recent places, adding favorite locations and so on. They also changed the default email and contact manager, plus the calendar. I don’t think they created anything revolutionary here, but they are all usable apps.
The “trying” tendency can be seen best with Windows Live products. These need to be downloaded, but they are great, and support other companies as well. Live Writer is a platform where you can write your post and send it to oyur blog. It integrates seamlessly with Blogger, Wordpres, Typpad, and almost any other blogging service.
Security issues have been great conversation starters in forums I believe and let me say this. I have my firewall turned off, I don’t have any anti virus protection and I have not had any serious viruses in about 5 years. I’m not so sure I should be advertising this… Nevertheless, I can’t really see the difference.
I also heard reports of hardware working once, and then not the next, software issues ditto. The only thing I saw was that I had a piece of hardware that didn’t run on XP and it does on Vista. I will grant you that I probably could have found a driver, but still, it became plug and play. The software issue does exist though, but I think we knew and anticipates that from the start. This doesn’t excuse it though. I’m no software engineer, if someone sells me a product for hundreds of Dollars, well, make it work, it’s not my problem (well it is actually).
One comment I also hear a lot is that it’s just a sort of service pack that could have been added to XP, and it’s just a prettier XP. I don’t really understand the basis of this argument. I mean why do you buy more than two pieces of clothes? Why do you drink soft drinks and juices when water suffices, I mean you don’t need all that caffeine and tar in Coke do you? People buy pretty things all the time and throwing muck at something because of this (true as it may be) is not really nice, look on your own doorstep first please.
Vista vs Linux
I want to start with my most powerful argument against Linux. This is not really an argument backing Vista, just in general, Linux is hard to work out. I mean I’ve been around computers for about 15 years now and I dare say I do have a lot of practice. I can edit registry settings, I can use the net like the productivity ninja I am, utilizing greasemonkey scripts, I can even code my own webpage in HTML, CSS, even some php and javascript. Even after all that, I have absolutely no idea how to use Linux.
Now I think most people don’t get this point. This is not the problem. I am willing to spend the time to learn it (although it is pretty different and needs time), but why do Linux users think that Linux is better, when it took me, someone with quite a lot of experience an hour to install my first driver? I would say that 70% of the users out there no nothing of PC’s outside their basic browsing and Office tools. It’s no wonder they don’t want Linux. Let me show you a musical example to back myself up. I use an 8 channel mixer to record stuff here at home. If I play somewhere I know to plug this here, that there, and I can set it up in five minutes. If you came to me and said, here’s an awesome new mixer with 24 channels, effects, phantom voltage, built in coffee machines and you can put any of the buttons wherever you like I’d say no thanks. It may be much better, but I can1t use it, nor have I the time to try before I start to play.
Overall
If you’ve come this far, just let me end with one more thing. There is nothing I hate more than people who are set in their ways and would find any fault to back themselves up. This goes for both Vista lovers and Vista haters. I think both Linux (Ubuntu for example) and Vista are great operating systems, both need to work a lot still though. Just don’t start hating each other, Bill Gates, me, the world, Linux, your dog, or anyone else because of this. If you don’t like Windows, use Linux and vice versa, no one is forcing you (if you’re lucky).











Rodney's Thoughts
at 2:04 pm
I must disagree with you. There are a plethora of programs I can’t run with Vista because they, at some point when they’re running (not before they’re running), need administrator access. So instead of nice, working programs, I get programs that sit there, idle with a flashing indicator at the bottom saying, “Access is denied” or “No User Privilege.” And I think you’re being a little over-sarcastic when you state you can “edit registry settings, I can use the net like the productivity ninja I am, utilizing greasemonkey scripts, I can even code my own webpage in HTML, CSS, even some php and javascript,” yet you can’t use a simple terminal. In fact, with all the tools available, you hardly need to use a terminal! Sure Vista has better looks than XP, but the annoyance of the User Control pop-up and the cheesy transparency doesn’t make it better. If you’re looking for graphics, check out Compiz-Fusion for most new GUI Linux distros.
Daniel's Thoughts
at 2:11 pm
Hi Rodney!
I did acknowledge the software issue, but look at sound drivers in Linux. There is not one proper sound driver, although I guess this would be the job of the sound card makers, not the Ubuntu people.
Yes, I am being sarcastic, very much, exactly because of people who so passionately defend either op system. For example, please describe why the transparency is cheesy. To me it isn’t. You can’t throw muck at an op system for something totally subjective like that. Oh, and you can disable User Account Control in 10 seconds if you own the PC.
I never said I can’t use the terminal. I just said that it’s far more counter-intuitive than using menus. Again, please note, that I am not saying that it is harder, it’s just not as intuitive as Windows. You can’t expect people who only know Windows to switch to Linux. When Linux offers all the simplicity that Windows does PLUS the power that it offers now, that’s when people will switch.
Rodney's Thoughts
at 2:20 pm
I don’t expect normal computer users to switch to Linux anytime soon. It definitely isn’t something that average users want to learn (i.e. the terminal). And how do you disable that Account Control? I’m really dying to know!
Gene Thomas's Thoughts
at 2:25 pm
I have this feeling that most of the Vista problems I hear about are a result of installing Vista on an XP machine and not getting a really, really clean install. I have Vista on a Vista machine with a 2.13 ghz dual processor and 2 gb of ram. It has been running without a hitch for 6 months now. While there are a few (very few) exceptions it run XP software just fine. I was a user of the original Windows, and since then 95, 98, me, and XP and Vista. No problem.
Thodoris's Thoughts
at 2:30 pm
Daniel, I will have to disagree with you. Vista is an OS that needs a lot of memory for working properly. I have 2GB of RAM and when I had installed vista, only the OS used 1GB by itself.
Lack of drivers for older and newer hardware.
Power options do not change automatically for laptops depending on whether you are plugged or unplugged from a power source.
The much talked about Aero UI is great to look at, but with all the resources it takes just to run it all you will be able to do is look at it and not actually work on your pc.
The search is a total mess.
How can you say that is better than XP when core functionalities like copy & paste aren’t working correctly.For example when you copy a file, the time calculations are wrong and the bar isn’t moving progressively. It just goes to the end that the copy is complete.
Don’t forget that when you compare two OS systems you must considered the following: GUI, Memory required, CPU required, Space required (over 1 GB!! Jesus), Graphics Card required.
And what’s that with the 5 or 6 different versions of the OS? It’s Rediculus!
Daniel's Thoughts
at 3:33 pm
Hi Rodney!
If you go to control panel and user accounts, there is an option to turn it off, it’s about at the middle of the window
Turning that off increased my Vista experience two-fold
Daniel's Thoughts
at 3:35 pm
Hi Gene!
Yes, I agree with you, I have a mid-class laptop, but had only 512 ram. Vista was choppy and slow at times. I upgraded and now I have 2048 Ram and it works like a charm. Do not install Vista on low end machines, it will not be a good experience. The sticker on my Laptop says “designed for XP, Vista ready”. This just means it’s capable of running Vista. It’s like the difference between “built for HD” and “HD ready”. Treat Windows accordingly
Daniel's Thoughts
at 3:47 pm
Hi Thodoris!
And in turn I will disagree with you
I don’t really think Microsoft ever said you will be able to run Vista on any machine. I have 2Gb of Ram on a mid-end laptop and it runs fine with Office and Photoshop running as well.
Also, I have never had problems with drivers on Vista. If I do remember correctly though XP had the same problem when it came out. Since then we have come a long way and this should not be an issue at all, but I for one have never seen a driver issue since I’ve been using it.
Power options: Ummm…, yes they do.
Please stop the resource question once and for all. Yes, Vista uses resources, but there are a lot of PC’s and laptops that are fully capable of running it. Do you say that the newest shoot ‘em up game sucks because it needs a better graphics card? I’d love to use the Flip 3D feature, but it’s not as seamless on my machine as I’d like it to be. If I had a better laptop it would work fine.
Nice try on explaining the search issue, I bow to your strong argument.
Again, the copy & paste thing. Are you running Vista on a laptop ready to run it? This does not mean that ot physically runs, but that it is able to run it well. I have no problem with the slider. I do find that it is sometimes erratic too, but not that XP was perfect in this sense. Also, the bar moving when copy pasting is not a core function in my opinion.
I’m not forgetting any of those, but only run Vista if you can, don’t complain about an OS you can1t run properly. If I installed Ubuntu on an old 486, it would possibly run but very badly. I wouldn’t be in a position to complain about its speed though would I?
1Gb is not that big. My mid-end laptop came with 80GB of space, I’m fine with a 1Gb install. You can buy storage space very cheaply nowadays, a 700GB external drive costs like $250.
Also, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Simply Mepis, Fedora, Balck Panther, Debian, SuSe, Xendros, Gentoo, SLackware, Damn Small Linux, gOS. All Linux distros. Why buy Vista Ultimate when you don’t need a lot of the features. I mean this is just the stupidest argument. You complain because the OS costs a lot (not you, in general), and then people say “And what’s that with the 5 or 6 different versions of the OS? It’s Rediculus!”.
You Windows haters are so stubborn.
Aibek's Thoughts
at 5:19 pm
It’s my 3′rd day on Vista, and I am proud to say that is by far the best piece of software I have ever used. As you have pointed out “much more integrated right from the start”.
However, my new system is pretty fast. So it is possible that I don’t notice the bloated memory loads people keep complaining about.
Daniel's Thoughts
at 5:36 pm
Hi Aibek, nice to see you here
My system is not the best, I do experience some lag, but I know that this is my system, not Microsoft. I really love it though, and I hope Microsoft keep this up. Vista may not be perfect, but it’s getting better.
Rodney's Thoughts
at 10:54 pm
I installed Vista upgrade from a former XP machine, and it works “fine.” But before that I had installed the full version of Vista from an empty harddrive, and there were so many incompatibility issues. Has anyone else experienced that issue?
And thanks Daniel for that. It seems to be working nicer now.
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AskTheAdmin's Thoughts
at 8:11 pm
I am about to make the jump next week. I have been playing around in virtual machines for a while but I think I will give her a go. Of course still dual booting
Great post Daniel.
Koselara's Thoughts
at 8:02 am
It’s SO good to see an impartial review of Vista, instead of the usual knee-jerk “it’s Windows therefore it sucks” nonsense. I get really tired of that, especially when the same people will often turn around and gloss over the very same problems in other OSes. My experiences with Linux distros were about the same, FWIW, and I simply didn’t care for the Mac (not to mention that my ex’s Macs all had more hardware/software issues than my PCs did).
A couple of additions I want to point out, though…
RAM is grabbed in huge chunks by Vista not for the OS itself, but to allocate to programs you’re commonly using; that’s why the usage appears so gigantic.
Daniel's Thoughts
at 9:57 am
Actually I’m not quite impartial in the review, but the reason for that is exactly the anything by Bill Gates = Trash philosophy of some people. I loved Ubuntu when I used it actually, the reason I am not using it is that I do not have enough technical knowledge to be able to customize and use it like I want to.
You1re absolutely right, I don’t mind if someone hates Vista, but you do have to acknowledge that at least it’s trying!
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Nickolas D's Thoughts
at 6:02 am
I loved you review on vista I have been using it since it came out. It has never had any real problems, except with some network issues that I fixed, with it and I love the search feature the most. There has only been one piece of hardware that didn’t work it was really old anyway. People complaining that there 20 year old printer won’t work are really getting annoying. Ever heard of upgrading!
I have a new laptop and it runs like a charm. Most of my software works on it and the old stuff had to go anyway.
The people that can’t figure out how to turn off UAC clearly never heard of a Google search or simply common sense.
I have used Linux but I found that driver support was worse that vista 10 times over. I did like some of the programs but Linux is impractical at the most because I can’t install flash or Dreamweaver or simply install a program.
The other option is a Mac and I really don’t see any advantages between a Mac and windows vista, and I have used a Mac on many occasions.
Upgrading to vista is easy and I have done it on two computers and it went fine and found no faults there. The only problem that I have to agree with is the DRM protection and if you have a illegal copy then quit complaining that what you get, and for the one in a million that have a problem and have a legal copy then well I guess that sucks.
Daniel's Thoughts
at 8:54 am
Totally agree with everything. I was surprised that someone who apparently uses a terminal wel, can’t find out how to switch off UAC.
Jake's Thoughts
at 3:06 am
Hey daniel nice guide, i agree with you completely, so many people complain about how vista is so terrible, and that XP is so much better, in my view vista is better in every way, every new OS has its conflicts, XP had twice the conflicts when it first came out, now everyone treats it like a god.
Also one question, how come every time you type “cant” it looks like “can1t” Keyboard error?, just asking.
Daniel's Thoughts
at 8:26 am
Hi Jake!
the can’t error could be caused by a few things I guess. There is a lot of trouble with the apostrophe character because word for example converts it to a fancier character and if you paste that in you get all types of weird stuff.
I don’t know why you would be seeing “1″ though,probably some sort of character encoding problem. If you have firefox you could try to go to view -> character encoding and setting it to unicode.
Kip's Thoughts
at 7:46 am
Hey Daniel! Thanks for holding a positive note on vista. I have owned vista ulta since 2 weeks of its release. I have a better experance with vista than i have ever had with XP. I did the upgade from xp to vista. I did have alittle trouble running a new printer. But, after a month Epson got the driver out and was good to go. So, After owning vista for 2 months or so,and reading so many neg reports about vista. I reloaded xp and took on the battle of getting everything to work. What a pain in the a**. So, then my wife need a notebook and bought a sony with vista on it. She had NO problems at all. Still needs no help from her IT man! damit! I got earn my browny points elsewhere ( the dishes). That was it. I went back to Vista and sing along with out a hitch. Vista finds drivers and loads them for me. WOW freackin awesome I think.
Resourse hog.. heck take all the mem you can handle vista. I can put 8megs on this board. But it only recongize 3.25 megs. So, take it vista take it.
I run BF2 with out any problems either.
Anyway peace on earth! Kip